IDF Fall 2006 - Day 2: Opteron vs. Xeon, SSE4 & Intel's Torrenza competitor Announced
by Anand Shimpi & Virginia Lee on September 27, 2006 1:12 PM EST- Posted in
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An Energy Efficiency Benchmark & Final Words
Gelsinger also announced that BAPCo would be working on a desktop client energy efficiency benchmark, sort of like a MobileMark for desktops, called EECoMark. The announcement was the only information we got, with no idea of release date or any other details about the benchmark.
We're particularly interested in it as it would provide a more standardized approach to testing performance per watt than what we do today.
Final Words
Today is a busy day with three keynotes planned and of course we'll be bringing you coverage of all of them. But the two major announcements from Gelsinger's opening keynote, SSE4 and Intel's more open FSB licensing, should be enough to think about for the time being.
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archikins - Wednesday, September 27, 2006 - link
..not much information in your article about this except the "i hate amd" screen shot. Could you please add some more info on this?AnnihilatorX - Wednesday, September 27, 2006 - link
What's with the "I hate amd" password...JarredWalton - Wednesday, September 27, 2006 - link
It was a joke more than anything - that was his "secret" password, but he got "hacked".tygrus - Thursday, September 28, 2006 - link
Was he blaming AMD that he was hacked? Implying that if it was an Intel machine with ??? tech it wouldn't.A real reason to hate AMD would be if AMD could beat Intel. Why would you hate someone you had beat ? Freudian slip that Intel thinks AMD can beat Intel ?
Who's afraid of the big bad wolf :)
slashbinslashbash - Wednesday, September 27, 2006 - link
So we've got IBM at IDF saying that they're supporting Intel in this new venture to plug accelerator chips into the motherboard with cache coherency and all kinds of really big stuff, and no explicit mention of Cell?wien - Wednesday, September 27, 2006 - link
Hmm. What's going on with the ads recently? When I open this page in Firefox/Epiphany on Linux, I'm instantly redirected to Newegg, Zipzoomfly or some other advertiser. Opera at least opens a new tab for the ad, but it's still mighty annoying.slatr - Wednesday, September 27, 2006 - link
This makes me want to work for Intel. I am such a nerd.psychobriggsy - Wednesday, September 27, 2006 - link
"Socket-F Opteron 285"No such beast exists. It'd be a 2220 or something. Either the box was Socket F and they got the name wrong, or it was Socket 940 still.
Intel's bus licensing thing looks quite weak compared to AMD's Torrenza. Intel have more might however, but a potential 18 months to mere specification isn't a good start. Quite what advantages they'll have over HyperTransport 3 remains to be seen, but if it is competing just to be awkward then Intel haven't really matured as a company like many had hoped.
Hopefully the benchmarking suite will be non-biased and based around sensible usage patterns. I guess we'll see soon enough.
The new instructions will be useful if they accellerate common algorithms decently over software implementations, e.g., CRC32 was on the list. However are these sensible instructions to have? Would general purpose accellerators, e.g., TCP/IP and Encryption, be better?
finalfan - Wednesday, September 27, 2006 - link
The one advantage of fsb bus licensing is it makes the 3rd party device being able to access system memory without forcing its own memory controller and its own memory since it is connected with MCH and MCH will be able to ensure memory coherence. It makes the other devices more like a CPU than a co-processor.Kiijibari - Wednesday, September 27, 2006 - link
Thus the AMD solution is more flexible.
cheers
Kiijibari
P.S: @anandtech, good article :) Nobody forces a memory controller with torrenza. It is jsut optional. Some dual Opteron mainboards also just use 1 CPU's memory, the other CPU is accesing the RAM through the coherent Hypertransport bus.